Curse

Shanaeri Rynale · Sep 15, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

Gaile,

One more to add and hopefully it's an easy one. I still have my PvP dervish left over from the PVP beta weekend. She had a long tumbling pony tail which looked uttlerly fantastic. It's now been changed to a more orderly decorated one, which looks ok but is kinda too neat and tidy.

I'm hoping the original one will be an option as it did look fantastic.
I also think the face totally changed but i'll wait and see what choices there are come Friday

If they have been replaced, please put them back. for meeee, pleeessseee

I'll save you a choclate chip charr cookie..

Thanks again

PS very happy with my makeover..

Zinger314 · Sep 15, 2006, 12:12 AM // 00:12

BEFORE:

AFTER

My eyes are now huge and my lips are smaller. Cuter, but a little less badass.

EDIT: My cheeks are also much plumper. WTB Liposuction.

LifeInfusion · Sep 15, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Just in time for Halloween???

Ron vo · Sep 15, 2006, 12:18 AM // 00:18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Knightsaber Sith

My necro looks kinda wierd with the lighting on the new login screen

o_O weird? more like pure evil in a convient package

Lex · Sep 15, 2006, 12:19 AM // 00:19

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Originally Posted by aspectacle

Mesmer before and after:

Heh - i see the same face model as my mesmer - AND the same problems - dark lines/shadows near eyes and lips (check my previous posts in this thread)

Athena99 · Sep 15, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

before:

after:

my assassin. her face probably changed but it doesnt really matter to me cause she always wears a mask anyway

and sorry about the crappy before pic, it was the only one i could find

and here is my ranger, but she doesnt really have the face problem cause masks are awesome

ElinoraNeSangre · Sep 15, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale

She had a long tumbling pony tail which looked uttlerly fantastic. It's now been changed to a more orderly decorated one, which looks ok but is kinda too neat and tidy.

Yes yes please! That pony tail was my favorite hairstyle from the PvP weekend (and I noticed there was one for rangers, too...

).

I want to go home so I can check out the changes to my chars faces.

Bah work be over...

Healing forces · Sep 15, 2006, 12:25 AM // 00:25

15k Luxion armor missing earings. Ears a little dumboish too ive seen on some charcters.

Ulivious The Reaper · Sep 15, 2006, 12:29 AM // 00:29

To be honest i like the new look they gave my monk ^.^ her face is more crisp and looks real, compared to the old ones, i'll get pics up here soon

Innuendo · Sep 15, 2006, 12:34 AM // 00:34

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Originally Posted by Aera Lure

I have said for a long time that many faces offered in Prophecies, and even many in Factions, indeed look pretty poor, limiting available character creation options. Itd be nice to see some additional ones added. Itd also be nice to have a few great looking ones in addition to the several with truly odd facial expressions (to my own eye anyway).

This doesnt mean going in and re-designing the faces we have chosen carefully for characters we have spent hundreds, some thousands, of hours on. We chose them for a reason. Subjective yes, but we liked them, and grew to like them. Some may like one face or another better, but changing an original face to something else, even if you think those changes minor, changes the original character choice. Anet cant do that without giving us then the ability to make a new face choice.

Better yet, change them back. There is no way I am creating characters over from scratch and a couple of the faces I truly liked have changed into something I do not at all.

Anet has to reconsider this. Add more facial options for new character creation. Great. I might make a new one. Add the ability perhaps to make a one-time change of facial choice if you are intent on changing them however. Changing existing faces please no one and is more disastrous than the grumbling about the interface changes. We all chose faces we liked when we looked at them for the first time. Now the majority of mine I like less - granted a couple better - but that is not the point.

Truly perplexed at this "logical" business choice. What is not good for the existing players with existing chracters is not a good business choice.

If ANet is truly looking at this thread to assess what the player base thinks of the changes made, then they need to strongly consider the words above.

Restating the above

If you make changes to a currently existing characteristic of a toon, which is in use by many players, then you need to give them the option to choose something else if they are not satisfied. If you want to make them high rez then do just that. There isn't any need to change color or facial structure. Save those for completely new faces.

Katina · Sep 15, 2006, 12:35 AM // 00:35

Quote:

Originally Posted by ElinoraNeSangre

Yes yes please! That pony tail was my favorite hairstyle from the PvP weekend (and I noticed there was one for rangers, too...

).

I liked it as well. There should be more longer hairstyles, especially ones that aren't in pony tails. Something long!

I like the Mesmer face with the eyeliner and what appears to be tears? I don't know, something about it I like.

Arwen Shiningstar · Sep 15, 2006, 12:37 AM // 00:37

My necro is supposed to be scary not smiley faced. She looks like the joker from batman now

And I dont even know what to say about my buck toothed rit

bucktooth tiamat.jpg

ugly mistress.jpg

Lynxius · Sep 15, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynxius Pardonus

Ok everyone.

I will present to you my lovelly asian faced, tyrian born monk ( one of my favorite characters )
Keep in mind that the before pictures were taken in dark places without much light.

Before:

_______________________________________________

After:

I think I noted some differences mainly on the eye shadow, and some parts near her lips, maybe her eyes too.
I took screenshots of her face from diferent angles, I tought it might help.

Just wanted to say that I like how she is like now.

Feedback from other users here is greatly apreciated, I wish to know what you think about my character, and if the changes were for better or for worse, you have my thanks in advance.

Would rather you kept her how she is at the moment.
Thank you A-Net.

-Lynxius

PS- Gaile Gray, I hope you may find my contribution usefull.

Bumping for my monk, and adding also my rangers facial change:
(zoomed in Lips next to original picture)

Before:

_____________________________________________

After:

Given the lip zooms, i noticed the teeth are possibly better detailed(which I apreciate) , and also the mouth slightly more open.

Once again, im open to Comments.

Sable Phoenix · Sep 15, 2006, 12:46 AM // 00:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aera Lure

I have said for a long time that many faces offered in Prophecies, and even many in Factions, indeed look pretty poor, limiting available character creation options. Itd be nice to see some additional ones added. Itd also be nice to have a few great looking ones in addition to the several with truly odd facial expressions (to my own eye anyway).

This doesnt mean going in and re-designing the faces we have chosen carefully for characters we have spent hundreds, some thousands, of hours on. We chose them for a reason. Subjective yes, but we liked them, and grew to like them. Some may like one face or another better, but changing an original face to something else, even if you think those changes minor, changes the original character choice. Anet cant do that without giving us then the ability to make a new face choice.

Better yet, change them back. There is no way I am creating characters over from scratch and a couple of the faces I truly liked have changed into something I do not at all.

Anet has to reconsider this. Add more facial options for new character creation. Great. I might make a new one. Add the ability perhaps to make a one-time change of facial choice if you are intent on changing them however. Changing existing faces please no one and is more disastrous than the grumbling about the interface changes. We all chose faces we liked when we looked at them for the first time. Now the majority of mine I like less - granted a couple better - but that is not the point.

Truly perplexed at this "logical" business choice. What is not good for the existing players with existing chracters is not a good business choice.

Absolutely, 100% correct, and ANet had best take these words to heart.

As an example, my wonderfully alluring Arabian Elementalist changed into a pouty-lipped baby-face:

My Elementalist's face has completely changed. The changes are very subtle, but they result in a totally different character. It's not the one I made or played with for almost 800 hours. And don't give me any of that crap about it being "superior art" or "crisper and cleaner textures" or any of that. Guess what? I don't care. What I do care about is that my character has been destroyed.

It would be so easy to fix this too. Move the center vertex of the top lip down to close her mouth, move the three center vertices of both eyelids downwards slightly, and scale about four or five vertices on each side of her jawline in towards the center. Boom, fixed, done, without damaging the rigging or UV mapping or anything.

The irony here is that the changes are so subtle that they would be ridiculously easy to fix, yet this very subtlety practically guarantees that they won't be. So I'll be stuck with a character whom I did not create and whom I don't find at all attractive, but I'll be told that I should like it better because it's "improved art" and "crisper textures".

Or, you know... you could just move 17 vertices and fix it...

Zinger314 · Sep 15, 2006, 12:52 AM // 00:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lynxius Pardonus

Given the lip zooms, i noticed the teeth are possibly better detailed(which I apreciate) , and also the mouth slightly more open.

Once again, im open to Comments.

The Paris Hilton look is the new "it."

In the meantime, I need to adapt my avatar...

Lex · Sep 15, 2006, 12:59 AM // 00:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zinger314

In the meantime, I need to adapt my avatar...

Maybe wait a little for fixes...

I hope to see any "soon"

MelechRic · Sep 15, 2006, 01:00 AM // 01:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by ojo

Oh no! I thought I wasn't going to get hit with this. Poor poor Katrina! She's gonna look startled all the time!

Whispering Siren · Sep 15, 2006, 01:01 AM // 01:01

I've noticed (in character creation) that a lot more of the female mouths are now open or open wider. Ones that were closed before, are open, etc. Personally, I don't like that at all. It seems to be the trend for Anet though... almost all of the Canthan mesmer faces have open mouths. Nevermind some of them now have rotting teeth!

It seems my characters escaped relatively unscathed. I don't know that I like the deeper shadows on the face, but I guess that's okay. (EXCEPTION: the harsh or misplaced shadows and the odd lines).

Many of us spend a lot of time choosing our characters' looks - even subtle changes in the face can be a whole personality change for the character. I definitely agree that our character art should not be changed without giving us a choice for something else.

Now would be the time to give us that hairdresser/face changer NPC.

ducktape · Sep 15, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Innuendo

If ANet is truly looking at this thread to assess what the player base thinks of the changes made, then they need to strongly consider the words above.

Restating the above

If you make changes to a currently existing characteristic of a toon, which is in use by many players, then you need to give them the option to choose something else if they are not satisfied. If you want to make them high rez then do just that. There isn't any need to change color or facial structure. Save those for completely new faces.

/signed, agree as well. Don't mess with peoples' faces and/or hair in a way that makes the faces and/or hair look different. Especially do not mess with faces and/or hair and make them look different and then not give the option to change it, leaving players stuck with something they did not choose and cannot change.

aspectacle · Sep 15, 2006, 01:08 AM // 01:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rafal

Heh - i see the same face model as my mesmer - AND the same problems - dark lines/shadows near eyes and lips (check my previous posts in this thread)

I saw that.

I just thought that the before and after comparison was too good to pass up, because the lighting made her look just plain awful. On the log in screen she looks like she's been crying and her mascara has run. In complimentary lighting she looks fine.

I had a look at the tyrian faces on the PvE new character creation screen last night - the ones with the polygon/blending problems seem to stand out pretty well - but you can't pick out the ones which have changed so completely that they're an entirely new face!